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[lbd_nytetrayn]

So my last post said that I thought that "Case 2 of Justice For All is bullshit in principle, and makes the game title a misnomer. ;P"

Well, I feel maybe there is need to elaborate, and since I'm more awake now, I shall do just that, behind the guise of a spoiler cut.



Ok, long story short, I think that the general idea that the court openly acknowledges and accepts the whole idea of channeling a spirit and having it take over a person's body, and will then go on to persecute the body of whom was occupied with its original spirit, rather than the one who actually took part in the crime.

In other words, they openly acknowledge and accept that someone else controlled Maya in commiting the crime (yes, she didn't actually do it, that's beside the point), and it seems almost out of bitterness or pettyness that they would continue to try Maya. That is not justice, not in the slightest.

Which leads into the accepted notion that the court system presented is essentially what happens when you cross Domino's with Judge Judy: verdict in 30 minutes or you're dead.

Since the whole thing runs on "guilty until proven innocent, and even then you're guilty" (why hasn't the judge's head rotated between four other faces, all laughing together yet?), I imagine that this system probably kills more innocent people than it helps. Undoubtedly.

It's pretty heavy stuff. It sure does a lot to really make Phoenix come out looking like a champion, even though the judge obviously has a severe case of bloodlust and wants to off as many people as he can before tee-time, but "Justice For All"? Hardly.

Keep in mind, I still love the game and characters and such, but just from a logical standpoint, they may as well convert the police into a firing squad, and persecute anyone even thought to do wrong.

I get the feeling that Defense Attorney is a very short-lived job in this setting, and if anything, Gyakuten Saiban 4 seems to prove it.

Also, Pearls is a little darling, ain't she?

--LBD "Nytetrayn"

Comments

[neontiger.livejournal.com]

That definitely bothered me. I mean, they openly admitted to the possibility of Maya being possessed, but they were still after her. Honestly, I blame Von Karma more. The judge really didn't seem to understand what was going on.

[timestones.livejournal.com]

I think the title "Justice for All" is specifically referring to Case 4. You'll see what I mean when you complete it.

[seangaffney.livejournal.com]

Well, the judicial system is based far more on Japan's than the US's. Nearly all criminal trials in Japan end with a guilty verdict. They also have the very short timeframe that the game has. Instead of innocent until proven guilty, it's very much 'if there weren't enough to convict you, you wouldn't be here, so let's get this done with fast'.

It's the localization that's the problem, as this makes far less sense for an LA courthouse, even if it *is* in the future.

I have less trouble with the 'we must penalize the possessed person' as 'well, we accept that she was possessed, but will punish her anyway'. Far more rational to have them deny that possession can happen. But then, in PW1 they seemed to be ready to send Ema to be executed for accidentally shoving someone, so who knows...

[neontiger.livejournal.com]

Well, it does seem to be a plot point about the rumor of the EVIL PROSECUTORS and how Edgeworth might have somehow broken the mold. In this case, it seems to suggest that the EVIL PROSECUTORS are literally deities of the courtroom. They can get away with assault (I wanted to take that whip and make her eat it), falsify evidence, and convict innocent people just so long as they don't get caught. This definitely proves the legitimacy of the rumor. :P

[lbd-nytetrayn.livejournal.com]

Maybe, though they seemed to really drive home the fact, to me, that essentially the spirit is taking over the body of the channeler, and that the soul leaves the body, etc.

At the very least, I'd expect more deliberation about exactly HOW to go about assigning guilt.

--LBD "Nytetrayn"