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lbd_nytetraynIt's the end of the world, folks.
I think that Mega Man has really pushed me too far.
Almost.
At the moment, about the only thing I'm really into on that front is Mega Man ZX.
Ryuusei no Rockman? I'll give it a chance, see how it develops. But from what I've seen so far, a TPS Rockman.EXE game just isn't what I'm after. That may change, but at the moment, I'm rather indifferent, beyond the news there may be a Draco/Dragon edition.
At the moment, though, so much has me frustrated or burned out regarding the series, and I find it's not my forefront interest. It's more akin to TransFormers or Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles right now; still quite strong, very strong, but it's not THE thing for me anymore. It's more like Mega Man has joined my own personal pantheon of things I love, but don't think about constantly in minute detail anymore.
Over the past few days, thanks to Rockman Zero Complete Works, so much shit has been kicked into the air. Mostly revolving around this.
My stance on this is that I'm waiting for the dust to clear, and hopefully some solid info to clarify what's what.
At the moment, it feels like Inti has been given carte blanche' by Inafune while he tries to figure out the best way to implement a virus cow that shoots plasma out of its ass at you in 3-D.
I'm all for the idea that maybe they're trying to sit down and rewrite and establish a solid timeline that may later result in less confusion. I can favor a two-steps back/three-steps forward approach, if the results are good.
But at the moment, this mess seems to be raising more questions than it answers or straightens out.
Personally? I think we're seeing what was planned for Maverick Hunter X before Capcom and Inafune started slap-fighting over what to do. These books take time to be made, after all.
So, yeah. X is sort of FUBAR at the moment. Fine. As I said, I'll wait for the dust to clear before I try and wade into that again. At least I still have my fan-based stuff, which for all intents and purposes should remain unaffected.
(But the fact Mario is making more sense to me lately just seems sort of wrong, somehow)
So, what else is there? Let's see.
I think for now Classic/Powered Up is in the same boat as anything X at the moment. That is, I think they're probably looking at options. Wii or DS don't seem unlikely. PS2, hard to say, and PS3 has been spoken out against by Inafune in regards to Mega Man titles recently.
XBox 360? Never know. Maybe Live Arcade could accomodate it somehow? But that's pure theorizing. Granted, any Japanese game appearing on XBox right now feels farfetched, but there's not only Sonic coming, but Inafune's own Dead Rising. Plus Street Fighter II on Live Arcade, plus Konami's bunch.
But, Mega Man is generally aimed at a lower age than most of those, so that leads us back to Wii.
Other than Powered Up remakes, though, I feel that the next new game may be the last, simply because Mega Man is showing a LOT more closure these days.
Battle Network just ended. Zero just ended. X5 was SUPPOSED to end X.
So it wouldn't surprise me if they use the next Classic title to tie that story off somehow.
Then there's Legends. Inafune has been vague about this, and interestingly so. On the one hand, he cites a love for that setting and would love to return to it. On the other hand, thanks to poor PSP sales and such, he seems to feel there's no place for it in the market. And Legends 2 ended with the somber note of "The End," rather than "to be continued."
Now, up until recently, I figured that we'd certainly see a new Legends eventually. And who knows, we may still see it yet.
But, between the two above thoughts from the mind of Inafune, I do not think we will see a MegaMan Legends 3.
What I DO think we will see, however, is a new game that takes place after Legends 2, by about a hundred years or so, maybe a few, which may play the same, or similarly, perhaps when The System awakens, as foretold by Yuna in Legends 2. They said it'd awaken soon, but if you've been around for a few thousand years, I imagine the term becomes one that is relative to the person saying it.
Maybe we'd see something that makes use of the Wii controller? Perhaps with the nunchuck?
Going back to Battle Network and Zero, I've seen quite a bit of frustration in those lately.
On my way to Otakon, I reached the end of MegaMan Battle Network 5 Double Team DS, the Team ProtoMan story.
And it reminds me of playing Battle Network 4 against Duo, only far worse. That final battle feels SO damn unbalanced, it's not even funny. It's almost like an entirely seperate game, just in how unbalanced it feels.
But that wasn't my problem. My problem is that there's this stretch you have to cover that they made as long as possible within a short space(run the length of the screen one way, turn, run back, repeat), where you get to fight viruses that kill any sort of buildup of tension, and go through two cut-scenes. Which are annoying in themselves, as for some reason the games in this series switch modes to a sort of "cut scene" mode, even though everything used in them is real-time, so to speak. You can skip them with the Select button, but that still takes a moment, as they still have to show some stuff, like MegaMan jacking in or whatever...
And if you die, then it's back to the title screen, back to reloading, back to doing it all over again.
...and it gets quite tiresome after awhile. And not fun. On the train ride from Hell, no less, that was the last thing I needed. Back in its case it went, and I decided to try my hand at Mega Man Zero 2 again instead.
Well, that didn't go so well, either. I fought up to the Anchus Brothers again, and lost a few times, but at least it's not as bad as the repetition of Battle Network... but close.
Here, the bosses taunt you before and after a battle if you're killed, or give last words if you beat them. If there's a way to skip these, I haven't found it, as all the traditional methods don't work. It gets really old, really fast. It might be nice if the dialogue varied, or the one time you missed something they said, but they don't vary, and once you know it, it gets quite tiresome.
I actually DID beat the Anchus Bros., but then they did their final "crash into each other and die" thing, which caught me in between, as I'd forgotten about it. Killed me, and they gave their speech. That was enough for me. Back in the case with BN5 it went.
Dying is one thing, but I don't need a damn narrative to go with it every. Single. Fucking. Time.
Maverick Hunter X and Powered Up were good about this, however. You hear the dialogue once, and if you die, then they just cut right to the chase when you re-enter, with their vocal catch phrase playing as they get ready.
THAT is what I'm talking about.
I love a great story in a game, but for God's sake, don't beat me over the fucking head with it. If you want me to see it so bad, then add a theater mode where I can view all the dialogue and cut scenes and stuff. I'll watch it. But when I want to play, let me fucking play.
And playing something like New Super Mario Bros., for example, really makes the problem seem more glaring. For awhile there, Mega Man was my prime gaming experience and that perhaps made me more tolerant, but thanks to the Nintendo DS, my interests have spread a bit wider again.
So, after all is said and done, that's a lot of crap I think.
I'm not particularly bitter, I just don't want to deal with most of it right now.
I just want to enjoy Mega Man ZX as its own entity. And perhaps get back into my RPGs at some point.
Of course, I still aim to keep up with and update the news when I can, but...
I still love the Mega Man series and games, don't get me wrong. Mega Man and I have been through too much together, and I feel I owe it a lot, but I think I need to step back from a lot of it for now.
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wolfshadow, don't worry, I'm still working on Mega Man Zero 1 around a few other things, I'm still happy to receive that. ;)
LBD "Nytetrayn"
I think that Mega Man has really pushed me too far.
Almost.
At the moment, about the only thing I'm really into on that front is Mega Man ZX.
Ryuusei no Rockman? I'll give it a chance, see how it develops. But from what I've seen so far, a TPS Rockman.EXE game just isn't what I'm after. That may change, but at the moment, I'm rather indifferent, beyond the news there may be a Draco/Dragon edition.
At the moment, though, so much has me frustrated or burned out regarding the series, and I find it's not my forefront interest. It's more akin to TransFormers or Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles right now; still quite strong, very strong, but it's not THE thing for me anymore. It's more like Mega Man has joined my own personal pantheon of things I love, but don't think about constantly in minute detail anymore.
Over the past few days, thanks to Rockman Zero Complete Works, so much shit has been kicked into the air. Mostly revolving around this.
My stance on this is that I'm waiting for the dust to clear, and hopefully some solid info to clarify what's what.
At the moment, it feels like Inti has been given carte blanche' by Inafune while he tries to figure out the best way to implement a virus cow that shoots plasma out of its ass at you in 3-D.
I'm all for the idea that maybe they're trying to sit down and rewrite and establish a solid timeline that may later result in less confusion. I can favor a two-steps back/three-steps forward approach, if the results are good.
But at the moment, this mess seems to be raising more questions than it answers or straightens out.
Personally? I think we're seeing what was planned for Maverick Hunter X before Capcom and Inafune started slap-fighting over what to do. These books take time to be made, after all.
So, yeah. X is sort of FUBAR at the moment. Fine. As I said, I'll wait for the dust to clear before I try and wade into that again. At least I still have my fan-based stuff, which for all intents and purposes should remain unaffected.
(But the fact Mario is making more sense to me lately just seems sort of wrong, somehow)
So, what else is there? Let's see.
I think for now Classic/Powered Up is in the same boat as anything X at the moment. That is, I think they're probably looking at options. Wii or DS don't seem unlikely. PS2, hard to say, and PS3 has been spoken out against by Inafune in regards to Mega Man titles recently.
XBox 360? Never know. Maybe Live Arcade could accomodate it somehow? But that's pure theorizing. Granted, any Japanese game appearing on XBox right now feels farfetched, but there's not only Sonic coming, but Inafune's own Dead Rising. Plus Street Fighter II on Live Arcade, plus Konami's bunch.
But, Mega Man is generally aimed at a lower age than most of those, so that leads us back to Wii.
Other than Powered Up remakes, though, I feel that the next new game may be the last, simply because Mega Man is showing a LOT more closure these days.
Battle Network just ended. Zero just ended. X5 was SUPPOSED to end X.
So it wouldn't surprise me if they use the next Classic title to tie that story off somehow.
Then there's Legends. Inafune has been vague about this, and interestingly so. On the one hand, he cites a love for that setting and would love to return to it. On the other hand, thanks to poor PSP sales and such, he seems to feel there's no place for it in the market. And Legends 2 ended with the somber note of "The End," rather than "to be continued."
Now, up until recently, I figured that we'd certainly see a new Legends eventually. And who knows, we may still see it yet.
But, between the two above thoughts from the mind of Inafune, I do not think we will see a MegaMan Legends 3.
What I DO think we will see, however, is a new game that takes place after Legends 2, by about a hundred years or so, maybe a few, which may play the same, or similarly, perhaps when The System awakens, as foretold by Yuna in Legends 2. They said it'd awaken soon, but if you've been around for a few thousand years, I imagine the term becomes one that is relative to the person saying it.
Maybe we'd see something that makes use of the Wii controller? Perhaps with the nunchuck?
Going back to Battle Network and Zero, I've seen quite a bit of frustration in those lately.
On my way to Otakon, I reached the end of MegaMan Battle Network 5 Double Team DS, the Team ProtoMan story.
And it reminds me of playing Battle Network 4 against Duo, only far worse. That final battle feels SO damn unbalanced, it's not even funny. It's almost like an entirely seperate game, just in how unbalanced it feels.
But that wasn't my problem. My problem is that there's this stretch you have to cover that they made as long as possible within a short space(run the length of the screen one way, turn, run back, repeat), where you get to fight viruses that kill any sort of buildup of tension, and go through two cut-scenes. Which are annoying in themselves, as for some reason the games in this series switch modes to a sort of "cut scene" mode, even though everything used in them is real-time, so to speak. You can skip them with the Select button, but that still takes a moment, as they still have to show some stuff, like MegaMan jacking in or whatever...
And if you die, then it's back to the title screen, back to reloading, back to doing it all over again.
...and it gets quite tiresome after awhile. And not fun. On the train ride from Hell, no less, that was the last thing I needed. Back in its case it went, and I decided to try my hand at Mega Man Zero 2 again instead.
Well, that didn't go so well, either. I fought up to the Anchus Brothers again, and lost a few times, but at least it's not as bad as the repetition of Battle Network... but close.
Here, the bosses taunt you before and after a battle if you're killed, or give last words if you beat them. If there's a way to skip these, I haven't found it, as all the traditional methods don't work. It gets really old, really fast. It might be nice if the dialogue varied, or the one time you missed something they said, but they don't vary, and once you know it, it gets quite tiresome.
I actually DID beat the Anchus Bros., but then they did their final "crash into each other and die" thing, which caught me in between, as I'd forgotten about it. Killed me, and they gave their speech. That was enough for me. Back in the case with BN5 it went.
Dying is one thing, but I don't need a damn narrative to go with it every. Single. Fucking. Time.
Maverick Hunter X and Powered Up were good about this, however. You hear the dialogue once, and if you die, then they just cut right to the chase when you re-enter, with their vocal catch phrase playing as they get ready.
THAT is what I'm talking about.
I love a great story in a game, but for God's sake, don't beat me over the fucking head with it. If you want me to see it so bad, then add a theater mode where I can view all the dialogue and cut scenes and stuff. I'll watch it. But when I want to play, let me fucking play.
And playing something like New Super Mario Bros., for example, really makes the problem seem more glaring. For awhile there, Mega Man was my prime gaming experience and that perhaps made me more tolerant, but thanks to the Nintendo DS, my interests have spread a bit wider again.
So, after all is said and done, that's a lot of crap I think.
I'm not particularly bitter, I just don't want to deal with most of it right now.
I just want to enjoy Mega Man ZX as its own entity. And perhaps get back into my RPGs at some point.
Of course, I still aim to keep up with and update the news when I can, but...
I still love the Mega Man series and games, don't get me wrong. Mega Man and I have been through too much together, and I feel I owe it a lot, but I think I need to step back from a lot of it for now.
Oh, and
wolfshadow, don't worry, I'm still working on Mega Man Zero 1 around a few other things, I'm still happy to receive that. ;)LBD "Nytetrayn"
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Date: 2006-08-15 04:44 am (UTC)And Zero 2 is the best Zero game, so shame on you for throwing it back in the case. Besides, the fight is pretty easy, unless you are going for a non-elf/S-Rank game.
And ZX plays exactly like a MMZ game, so boss dialogue once more :P
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Date: 2006-08-15 04:57 am (UTC)Yeah, I know it's a series-sequel, but so far, I'm just generally unsure about it. Like I said, we'll see.
And I corrected the FPS bit earlier. TPS=Third Person Shooter, I guess.
...and ZX is on the horizon, that's my main interest now.
And Zero 2 is the best Zero game, so shame on you for throwing it back in the case. Besides, the fight is pretty easy, unless you are going for a non-elf/S-Rank game.
I prefer 3, personally, but yeah, I was going for the latter, non-elf anyway. I didn't make it just shy of the end just to break the streak there.
And ZX plays exactly like a MMZ game, so boss dialogue once more :P
Which one, though? Z3 I had a better time with, and Z4 I've not even tried off of Easy yet(I aim to get it soon, though, and do just that).
Anyway, there's no "only" to it, there's clearly multiple reasons, and I just need to step back a little before the whole thing becomes more of a chore than a pleasure.
LBD "Nytetrayn"
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Date: 2006-08-15 01:11 pm (UTC)Z4, since you can at anytime press Start to skip any cutscene in ZX.
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Date: 2006-08-15 04:52 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-08-15 04:59 am (UTC)Anyway, my biggest gripe is that we're having to fight tooth and claw to get ANY sort of info over here... making it that much harder to keep track of.
Leave it to Capcom USA, we'll never know anything past their names.
LBD "Nytetrayn"
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Date: 2006-08-15 04:58 am (UTC)I don't care if the continuity is rewritten. The series is the same and the appeal is there even if petty background info is changed.
Like, in terms of the new Sonic, some continuity changes could be impending for all I know. But I considered that and I realized that if it's awesome, then it's awesome. I had the relevation that if Sonic never existed until this November, it would still hook me. And that's what truly makes it great -- the content on its own merit, not the brand history.
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Date: 2006-08-15 05:05 am (UTC)I think I've been pretty patient, a lot more than many, and having to lay out the finer points for others.
Or do you mean with playing the games themselves?
I have a short temper when I get annoyed, so I have to keep myself in check sometimes, especially with the wife around.
I don't care if the continuity is rewritten. The series is the same and the appeal is there even if petty background info is changed.
I won't say I don't care, but I will adapt. I just don't want to jump into the dustcloud of shit that's being kicked up by it right now. I'd rather just wait it out and see what's actually changed.
Like, in terms of the new Sonic, some continuity changes could be impending for all I know. But I considered that and I realized that if it's awesome, then it's awesome. I had the relevation that if Sonic never existed until this November, it would still hook me. And that's what truly makes it great -- the content on its own merit, not the brand history.
While I do agree with this, the main difference with Mega Man in this case I think is the integrated history. If the new Sonic is a reboot, then it's its own thing, no problem.
Battle Network is much the same in that regard. But with the new info, it's more akin to if they were trying to shoehorn BN into the main timeline, as they're messing with what's already there, rather than starting anew.
LBD "Nytetrayn"
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Date: 2006-08-15 05:13 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-08-15 05:22 am (UTC)LBD "Nytetrayn"
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Date: 2006-08-15 05:05 am (UTC)Tho, it did cause some hilarity in the Atomic Fire channel about X yelling at kids to get off his lawn, and Axl telling him "bite me old man"
I've noticed something about the RMZ series.
People who are awesome at Z1 and Z2, couldn't beat Z3 and Z4 for the life of them(like me x.x;)
But people who thought Z1 and Z2 were impossible, rock hard at 3 and 4.
...I think a college study is in order!
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Date: 2006-08-15 06:41 am (UTC)MMZ3? I was able to finish the game with an S-rank for every mission.
(and haven't played MMZ4 yet...)
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Date: 2006-08-15 05:21 am (UTC)I still have to play EXE6. (Owns it, got it on release day, has yet to open it.)
I am very ticked that MMPU and IHX wont get sequels, and Ryuusei no Rockman kinda lames me out. Ill wait to see how the story turns out but THREE FREAKING VERSIONS? WHY?@!!?!?!!?
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Date: 2006-08-15 05:25 am (UTC)LBD "Nytetrayn"
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Date: 2006-08-15 05:37 am (UTC)LBD "Nytetrayn"
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Date: 2006-08-15 01:47 pm (UTC)LBD "Nytetrayn"
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Date: 2006-08-15 06:31 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-08-15 01:48 pm (UTC)Not that they really marketed these to 5-year olds, but they did lump all their PSP advertising together... like, what, five games in one ad?
Dunno who's buying it in Japan, though.
LBD "Nytetrayn"
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Date: 2006-08-15 02:34 pm (UTC)LBD "Nytetrayn"
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Date: 2006-08-15 06:27 pm (UTC)...Actually, that's about all I have to say to your comment.
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Date: 2006-08-15 07:42 pm (UTC)LBD "Nytetrayn"
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Date: 2006-08-15 11:10 pm (UTC)LBD "Nytetrayn"
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Date: 2006-08-15 05:34 pm (UTC)LBD "Nytetrayn"
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Date: 2006-08-16 06:52 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-08-16 08:00 pm (UTC)I mainly want to know if this is supposed to be MMX or MHX.
LBD "Nytetrayn"