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lbd_nytetraynSo today, by virtue of a Christmas gift subscription to Nintendo Power via my parents, we received the Legend of Zelda Collector's Edition GameCube disc. No replacement for my beloved lost Super Smash Bros. game, but it's workable.
It's sort of funny to see what was kept, and what wasn't. For example, it's odd to see the save screen without the big orange box telling you to hold in the reset button as you turn off the power, so you won't zap the battery. As a result, the options of Continue, Save, and Retry(in the first Zelda), they're just set really, REALLY high on the screen. Personally, I'd have put a memory card message there, just for a combined sense of practicality and nostalgia's sake.
The most unfortunate part of the NES remakes, however, is that playing them with the GameCube controller is just a pain in the ass. It just doesn't feel right, analog stick or control pad. It actually throws off my timing and makes things more difficult. I've heard of "playing it again for the first time", but it's never felt so literal. I seem to be slowly growing into it, though, but getting the Hammer from Death Mountain in Zelda II is more tedious than it should be; I bet if I were using an NES controller, fucking Darias(axe-wielding alligator-people) wouldn't be kicking my ass with such ease. Still, I got just short of the Hammer on my first try, so at least I'm not THAT out of practice.
Haven't tried the N64 ones yet. For some reason, those just seem more like "Red's games", as she's never been good at the first Zelda, which is even worse to play with this controller. Hey Nintendo, I know you're not reading this, but I'm telling you anyway: if you're going to keep making these emulations, how about emulating an old-school controller for us old-timers while you're at it?
Also of note on the N64 games: I'm sort of curious as to whether Red's save-state from the OTHER Ocarina of Time bonus disc will work here.
Played through the first dungeon in Zelda one right off. Pissed me off when I quit my game and it didn't save. Apparently, you have to do it from the sub-screen for it to count, or when you die. At least there's no controller 2 BS here. Controlling Link is odd there, worse than Zelda 2. Which btw, isn't so much bad as it is... eh, jarring. I imagine it's just a matter of practice, I guess.
Also watched the little movie chronology of Zelda. Was hoping for more than 20 second of gameplay footage from every Zelda game. Like narration, some history, facts, something.
Nintendo also seems to be trying to erase part of their past with this release, too. While I haven't gone and compared, I understand some of the Engrish bits have been rewritten. I can understand that. As an artist and writer of sorts, I imagine if I were to introduce an old work of mine to a new generation of fans, I might want to polish up what was in error before. Takes away the classic "ha-ha, look at that" factor for old-schoolers, but whatever.
Moreso, the booklet just isn't as good as the original Zelda booklets, and the Player's Guide from Nintendo Power is just as bad or worse. Very little story going into any of these, not like there used to be. Not even the bit about the mark of the Triforce on Link's hand, which becomes a more relevant thing in later games.
Anyway, it's a neat bit to add to one's collection, and I imagine the N64 games ported better, but for the NES games... I dunno what to say. Somehow, and I never thought I'd say this, it just seems like you could probably do as good or better just getting those in emulator form, and reading the details online.
Just hope I can get the hang of the controls... I much prefer the option of playing on the TV, at least. But for now, the "real experience" seems to still lie with getting a used NES, blowing the dust out of the cartridges, and reading the classic booklets. The NES Zelda games here really are emulations that feel like emulations, and I dunno if that's good or not. Prolly not.
...incidently, what's it say when some guys out on the internet can create better emulations than the people who made the games in the first place?
LBD "Nytetrayn"
It's sort of funny to see what was kept, and what wasn't. For example, it's odd to see the save screen without the big orange box telling you to hold in the reset button as you turn off the power, so you won't zap the battery. As a result, the options of Continue, Save, and Retry(in the first Zelda), they're just set really, REALLY high on the screen. Personally, I'd have put a memory card message there, just for a combined sense of practicality and nostalgia's sake.
The most unfortunate part of the NES remakes, however, is that playing them with the GameCube controller is just a pain in the ass. It just doesn't feel right, analog stick or control pad. It actually throws off my timing and makes things more difficult. I've heard of "playing it again for the first time", but it's never felt so literal. I seem to be slowly growing into it, though, but getting the Hammer from Death Mountain in Zelda II is more tedious than it should be; I bet if I were using an NES controller, fucking Darias(axe-wielding alligator-people) wouldn't be kicking my ass with such ease. Still, I got just short of the Hammer on my first try, so at least I'm not THAT out of practice.
Haven't tried the N64 ones yet. For some reason, those just seem more like "Red's games", as she's never been good at the first Zelda, which is even worse to play with this controller. Hey Nintendo, I know you're not reading this, but I'm telling you anyway: if you're going to keep making these emulations, how about emulating an old-school controller for us old-timers while you're at it?
Also of note on the N64 games: I'm sort of curious as to whether Red's save-state from the OTHER Ocarina of Time bonus disc will work here.
Played through the first dungeon in Zelda one right off. Pissed me off when I quit my game and it didn't save. Apparently, you have to do it from the sub-screen for it to count, or when you die. At least there's no controller 2 BS here. Controlling Link is odd there, worse than Zelda 2. Which btw, isn't so much bad as it is... eh, jarring. I imagine it's just a matter of practice, I guess.
Also watched the little movie chronology of Zelda. Was hoping for more than 20 second of gameplay footage from every Zelda game. Like narration, some history, facts, something.
Nintendo also seems to be trying to erase part of their past with this release, too. While I haven't gone and compared, I understand some of the Engrish bits have been rewritten. I can understand that. As an artist and writer of sorts, I imagine if I were to introduce an old work of mine to a new generation of fans, I might want to polish up what was in error before. Takes away the classic "ha-ha, look at that" factor for old-schoolers, but whatever.
Moreso, the booklet just isn't as good as the original Zelda booklets, and the Player's Guide from Nintendo Power is just as bad or worse. Very little story going into any of these, not like there used to be. Not even the bit about the mark of the Triforce on Link's hand, which becomes a more relevant thing in later games.
Anyway, it's a neat bit to add to one's collection, and I imagine the N64 games ported better, but for the NES games... I dunno what to say. Somehow, and I never thought I'd say this, it just seems like you could probably do as good or better just getting those in emulator form, and reading the details online.
Just hope I can get the hang of the controls... I much prefer the option of playing on the TV, at least. But for now, the "real experience" seems to still lie with getting a used NES, blowing the dust out of the cartridges, and reading the classic booklets. The NES Zelda games here really are emulations that feel like emulations, and I dunno if that's good or not. Prolly not.
...incidently, what's it say when some guys out on the internet can create better emulations than the people who made the games in the first place?
LBD "Nytetrayn"
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